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		<title>Who Asked You To?&#8211; The Arrogance of Self-Expectation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago I read this post by Kathy Escobar. I found the post disturbing, and needed to take some time and reflect on both my reaction to it and what I truly wanted to say about it. Kathy is the co-pastor of The Refuge. I don&#8217;t know much about this church, but I [...]]]></description>
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<p>A few weeks ago I read <a href="http://kathyescobar.com/2008/09/03/why-sometimes-i-want-to-throw-in-the-towel/">this post</a> by <a href="http://kathyescobar.com">Kathy Escobar</a>. I found the post disturbing, and needed to take some time and reflect on both my reaction to it and what I truly wanted to say about it.</p>
<p>Kathy is the co-pastor of <a href="http://www.therefugeonline.org/">The Refuge</a>. I don&#8217;t know much about this church, but I get the idea that they minister to a lot of &#8220;<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2025:31-46;&amp;version=31;">the least of these</a>&#8220;: Folks who are  &#8220;high need&#8221;. From what she has described in her post, it sounds like the &#8220;high need&#8221; people may outnumber the &#8220;normals&#8221; at The Refuge.</p>
<p>Because of this skewed demographic, Kathy gets a lot of pats on the back (and probably the head) for her good work, but not so much in the way of practical support (i.e. people who are willing to become part of The Refuge&#8217;s community). Mind you, there are plenty of folks who are willing to send folks to The Refuge: They just don&#8217;t want to join them there.</p>
<p>When Kathy has asked folks why they don&#8217;t join the fellowship of The Refuge, she gets answers like these:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>&#8220;<em>“we just want to be around less broken people”</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><em>“i don’t have the issues these people have” </em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><em></em><em>“we just don’t feel comfortable” &#8221; </em></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I have alluded to <a href="http://www.lainiepetersen.com/?p=189">my discomfort with the poor</a> in previous posts. So when I read this post, I felt rather, um. . .challenged? I don&#8217;t live anywhere near The Refuge, so participating isn&#8217;t an option for me, but I still felt this need to justify why I wouldn&#8217;t participate if I was a local.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">To my chagrin, my responses were identical to those listed by Kathy. In fact, I began feeling a bit helpless, thinking that if I were to become involved in a community such as Kathy&#8217;s, I&#8217;d probably implode with so many demands on my time, so many broken people wanting to be my friend, so many things and people that I&#8217;d have to &#8220;fix&#8221;. It was just too much, and I shrugged and said &#8220;Sorry God, I just couldn&#8217;t do all that.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It was then that I heard the still, small voice say: <strong> &#8220;Who asked you to?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Stunned, I had to sit back and think. I realized that what was making me so uncomfortable about participating in a community like Kathy&#8217;s had less to do with what would like be expected of me by the church community, and more of what I was expecting of myself.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The arrogance of my thinking and the largeness of my ego actually got me to laugh harder at myself than I have for a very long time: Here I was thinking that if I were to join such a church, I would be expected to meet needs, solve problems, and make friends with needy people. Never mind that:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1. I have a fair number of needs myself right now, and not a lot of resources (personal, emotional, spiritual, or material) to share with others.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2. While I might think of myself as SuperLainie, the fact is that neither I, nor anyone else, can &#8220;solve&#8221; other people&#8217;s problems.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">3. These &#8220;needy people&#8221; just might have their own friends. And maybe they wouldn&#8217;t like me all that much anyway.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In other words, I was willing to withhold my presence from a community where I likely would have been welcomed and loved, all because I was worried that I wouldn&#8217;t be able to live up to my own (not the church&#8217;s, not the pastors&#8217;, not God&#8217;s) expectations about what I &#8220;needed to do for them&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>(Kind of silly, eh?)</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">While I was reading Kathy&#8217;s post, I got the sense that the only expectation that she had of others was a willingness to be present: For her, for the church leadership, and for the church community. Yet I had to admit that, if I were local to The Refuge, I would have been reluctant to offer that simple thing because of my &#8220;whole-r than thou&#8221; attitude.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Of course, I am not everybody, and others may have different reasons for not participating in The Refuge (or churches like it. But I&#8217;d encourage those who have the same &#8220;uncomfortable&#8221; reaction to consider why they feel so squeamish. Is it because they are truly afraid of not getting their own needs met? Or are they laboring under a heavy burden of unreasonable self-expectation?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And if the later is true, are they willing to surrender that burden for a lighter one?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>(Am I?)</strong></p>
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		<title>Porning Jesus: Getting Off on Delusions of Edge</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I was twittering and happened upon this blog post by Paul Mayers. The post puts forth the premise that many of the books out there on &#8220;being church&#8221; are pornographic:  They titalate, they excite, they tempt, they fulfill fantasies and they may even provide some release. But ultimately, when we put down the book, [...]]]></description>
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<p>So I was <a href="http://twitter.com/lainiep">twittering</a> and happened upon this <a href="http://paulmayers.blogs.com/my_weblog/2008/09/church-porn-that-i-wont-be-reading.html">blog post</a> by <a href="http://paulmayers.blogs.com">Paul Mayers</a>. The post puts forth the premise that many of the books out there on &#8220;being church&#8221; are pornographic:  They titalate, they excite, they tempt, they fulfill fantasies and they may even provide some release. But ultimately, when we put down the book, are we truly satisfied?</p>
<p>As Paul says:</p>
<p>&#8220;I guess I&#8217;m just tired of the flood of book, blogs, podcasts, commentators who with voyeur like pleasure lift up the skirts to show me how wrong church is.  How broken church is.  How institutional church is. How hypocritical church is.  How abusive, myopic, out of touch, conservative, liberal, self serving, fragmented, divisive church is.  How really it is not what Jesus ever intended to be and quite frankly why he if he showed up he wouldn&#8217;t be darkening the door of those kinda places.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Those kinda places.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>You mean those corner suburban churches with buildings and budgets and programs and paid clergy?</p>
<p>Well that&#8217;s what I thought when I read this post. How boring. How <strong><em>vanilla</em></strong>.</p>
<p>I then let my mind wander a bit. I even fantasized about a vanilla church. The church is filled with women in pressed skirts and blouses, bustling to prepare some coffee and sandwiches for a visit from Jesus. I see the men in their khaki shorts and Polo shirts, neatly trimming the hedges to make the church presentable for Jesus.  The pastors are wearing their best suits.</p>
<p><strong>(Oh ho, hum!)</strong></p>
<p>But then the fantasy &#8220;got away from me&#8221;. This is how it went:</p>
<p>Jesus comes to the church.</p>
<p>And he darkens their doorway.</p>
<p>He shakes the pastors&#8217; hands.</p>
<p>He admires the shrubbery.</p>
<p>He gratefully accepts some coffee.</p>
<p><strong>(Wait a minute, why isn&#8217;t he turning over tables? Why isn&#8217;t he spitting these folks out of his mouth?)</strong></p>
<p>Instead he accepts their service, their hospitality. He is kind to the bustling group,  saying to a woman who is fretting that the coffee isn&#8217;t hot enough:  <strong>&#8220;You are worried about so many things, aren&#8217;t you?&#8221;, as he pats her on the shoulder. </strong></p>
<p>He inquires after the senior pastor&#8217;s well-being, noting that the pastor is burdened with many things, but that the pastor <strong>should feel free to come to him with his burdens, </strong>and he (Jesus) will give that pastor rest.</p>
<p><strong>(Then I snapped out of it.)</strong></p>
<p><strong>(Boy, that was weird.)</strong></p>
<p>Does it make us angry to think of Jesus behaving this way? The idea that Jesus might <em>desire</em> intimacy and union with those who &#8220;just don&#8217;t get it&#8221;? Why doesn&#8217;t Jesus realize how vanilla these folks are? Maybe he just doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s missing.</p>
<p>Maybe Jesus never read our porn.</p>
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		<title>A Clarification on &#8220;Mission Mess-Ups&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A commenter has made some excellent points concerning my Mission Mess-Ups post, causing me to reconsider whether what I wrote truly reflected how I feel about short-term missions. I should note that my post was made in response to Shades of Gray and a Washington Post article, both of which offered critical perspectives on short-term [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commenter has made some excellent points concerning my <em><a href="http://www.lainiepetersen.com/?p=117">Mission Mess-Ups</a></em> post, causing me to reconsider whether what I wrote truly reflected how I feel about short-term missions.</p>
<p>I should note that my post was made in response to <a href="http://shadesofgray.blog-city.com/church_mission_trips.htm">Shades of Gray</a> and a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/04/AR2008070402233.html"><em>Washington Post </em>article</a>, both of which offered critical perspectives on short-term mission trips to third-world countries.  I was agreeing with their criticisms, but I perhaps should have better clarified my own position.</p>
<p>There is a place for short-term mission work, but I think that these opportunities should be a response to the actual needs of communities, not a business in and of themselves.  I am concerned that there is a &#8220;marketing-to-the-missionaries&#8221; aspect to these programs: Yes, some services/labor may be given to a community, but if the primary emphasis is put on the experience of the mission team (rather than meeting the needs of a community), this is a problem. I don&#8217;t question that many people who participate in these programs find them humbling and a real opportunity for growth, but if they aren&#8217;t meeting the needs of those who they are supposed to serve, they are being cheated out of fulfilling their desire to truly be of service.</p>
<p>Secondly, these trips <em>may</em> not be a cost effective way of getting work accomplished, and, in some cases, they may be responsible for driving down wages of local workers.  <strong>Obviously this is not always going to be the case:</strong> In a disaster, such as a flood or an earthquake, <em>people</em> are desperately needed to rebuild infrastructure and stabilize the area. Well-organized short-term mission teams and individual volunteers are absolutely crucial to these efforts. In addition, there <em>are</em> many churches, aid agencies, and social service programs that have well-organized short-term mission and volunteer programs that do serve critical, and well-defined, community needs.</p>
<p>Thirdly, many aid agencies working in underprivileged communities (both domestically and overseas)  desperately need both cash and <em>specialist </em>labor. If a community has few medical professionals or engineers, it makes sense to sponsor a medical or engineering team to that area. If there is a shortage of housing in that community, it makes sense to send cash to an agency and let them hire local workers to do the building. Just because a community is poor does not mean that it completely lacks human resources: It may well be that sending cash is far better stewardship than sending a team of unskilled workers.</p>
<p>The lack of cultural sensitivity displayed in <em>some</em> of these programs is problematic. Granted, problems of cultural sensitivity and disruption are inevitable,  but I think that efforts ought to be made to minimize them.</p>
<p>In our desire to &#8220;do good&#8221; we should remember that we don&#8217;t get to define what &#8220;doing good&#8221; is. Neither do churches, parachurch ministries, or even aid agencies. Instead, we need to take the time to listen to those whom we seek to serve so that <strong>they </strong>can tell us what they need.</p>
<p>We might be surprised.</p>
<p>Or we might not.</p>
<p>But the point is that we need to listen.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Please note: An addendum/clarification to this post is available here.) About ten years ago, my mom was a youth group leader at her church. The church was located in a very affluent community, and the kids in the group were very privileged indeed. The youth leaders decided that the kids needed to learn about the [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;">(Please note: An addendum/clarification to this post is available <a href="http://www.lainiepetersen.com/?p=145">here</a>.)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">About ten years ago, my mom was a youth group leader at her church. The church was located in a very affluent community, and the kids in the group were very privileged indeed.  The youth leaders decided that the kids needed to learn about the &#8220;less fortunate&#8221; and asked them if they would like to cook and serve a meal at an inner-city soup kitchen.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The kids were less than delighted at the prospect.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Finally, after a fair amount of cajoling, nagging (and probably tears on my mother&#8217;s part), the group decided to play along.  They were serving a meal at the soup kitchen when a fight broke out between two of the diners. Things escalated when one of the combatants ran into the kitchen to find a knife. (The youth group girls huddled in a corner, crying hysterically, while all this commotion was taking place.)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">After the day&#8217;s disastrous events, my mom asked my understandably-traumatized sister (who was in the youth group, and is now a very socially-conscious and kind-hearted adult) if she had learned anything that day.  My sister nodded and said:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>&#8220;I learned that I don&#8217;t like poor people.&#8221;</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">This story came to mind when I read a recent post by Pastor Pat Spelling over at <a href="http://shadesofgray.blog-city.com/church_mission_trips.htm">Shades of Gray</a>. She posted on well-intended &#8220;short term missions&#8221;, including a provocative article from the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com">Washington Post</a> entitled &#8220;<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/04/AR2008070402233.html">Churches Retool Mission Trips</a>&#8220;. The points that both Pastor Spelling and the <em>Post</em> article are good ones:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">1. Short-term mission trips are often poorly conceived and executed by those organizing the trips. Youth groups are sent to &#8220;help&#8221; a community with no real understanding of that community&#8217;s needs or culture: In some cases the &#8220;help&#8221; offered is simply redundant (such as multiple groups painting and repainting a church over the course of the summer), but in other cases it is actually harmful to the community (i.e. putting local laborers out of work).</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">2. These trips are not cost effective: Participants are usually required to &#8220;raise funds&#8221; from church members, family and  to cover their expenses, which can easy run from $1000-$3000.  Thus a ten person youth group (plus chaperones) could easily spend $12 ,000-$30,000 to build a house or a hospital that, in the economy of many third-world countries, might only cost $2000-$10,000 if local labor was employed.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">3. Most disturbing of all, however, is the attitude among many that even if such trips aren&#8217;t particularly cost-effective (or even necessary to those being &#8220;served&#8221;) they are justified because, after all, middle -class teenagers need to &#8220;learn&#8221; about their privilege and about the &#8220;less fortunate&#8221;. (Apparently the &#8220;less fortunate&#8221; are to endure these assaults upon their communities and local economies so that privileged youths can get an education. In other words, the poor get to be used as object lessons so that the privileged can engage in a course of self-improvement.)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Um, I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">When it comes to serious, systemic poverty (and not just in the third world), &#8220;short-term&#8221; <em>anything</em> is pointless.  Poverty, true poverty, is extremely complex, and people don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; just by going out and building a house or serving a meal at a homeless shelter.  At best, kids on these trips are going to come back with &#8220;an appreciation of what they have&#8221; (but no real understanding of why they have it or how they got it or why other folks don&#8217;t have it), at worst, with attitudes like my sister&#8217;s after her visit to the soup kitchen.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If young people truly want to address poverty and its ills, they need to understand that going on an expensive working vacation is not the answer. Ironically, they would do best to take advantage of their privilege and the benefits that it affords them: They could use their social networks to raise cash, not for mission trips, but to send directly to long-standing aid agencies in third world countries.  They could go to university to become doctors and nurses and engineers and agriculturalists and <em>then</em> visit a third world country to teach, train, solve problems, and generally do the sorts of specialist work that is actually needed. They could also work to transform social and foreign policy in their own countries or house and befriend students from third-world countries who are trying to bring new knowledge and skills back home.</p>
<p>But none of the above<em> </em>strategies <em>sound</em> as good as &#8220;My Johnny just went on a mission trip to help those poor people in South America!&#8221;. I just wonder what the &#8220;less fortunate&#8221; being &#8220;missioned&#8221; have to say to <em>their</em> friends after each group leaves for home.</p>
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<p></a>Like most children, I learned the rules of etiquette in stages. My parents began with the basics: Don’t make faces, don’t bite, say “please”, and never, <em>ever</em> refer to your private parts in public. After these niceties were mastered, the more specialized nuances were taught: Table manners, forms of address. But most importantly, I learned the Golden Rule of middle-class white suburbia: Never, ever, <em>ever</em> discuss money.</p>
<p>I learned that while money was a very good thing to have (and that one ought to spend much of one’s life in the pursuit of it), it was bad form to ask someone what his/her possessions cost, to inquire about another’s bank balance, or to reveal one’s salary. (In fact, our family’s business had a policy of <em>immediate termination</em> for anyone who discussed their compensation with a colleague.).</p>
<p>As I got older, I realized that the middle class issues with money were even more complex than my parent’s hard-and-fast rules. I learned that people were reluctant to lend money to others, not because they couldn’t afford to extend the loan (or even absorb the non-repayment of same) but because people were uncomfortable with asking for their money back. I also learned that even robust organizations/groups could and would fall apart over money issues (particularly if someone, but not everyone, was getting compensated for their time and effort). Mind you, nobody ever discussed the money issues in these groups, but tempers would rise and members would withdraw as a result of these unspoken resentments.</p>
<p>So here we are in the missional/emergent movements, both enclaves of middle-class ideology (even if we want to think that we are edgy and hip), and everyone is ticked off about money. Some people think that they should be paid for the ministry work that they do. Other people think that they shouldn’t have to pay anyone for the ministry work that they do. So some people get burnt out because they are working a “secular” job while engaging in ministry, while others have to rely on an understanding (but not-so-secretly annoyed) spouse to bring in the bulk of the family income. Meanwhile, the folks who resist financially supporting those that minister get to boast about how cutting edge it is not to have a paid ministry in their “movement”.</p>
<p>And because we are all following the example that our parents set for us, people are often reluctant to actually say anything about this conflict.</p>
<p>So I am going to disobey my parents and throw my upbringing back in their faces. I am going to talk about money. I invite discussion on these four observations about money matters in the missional/emergent movements:</p>
<p><strong>1.</strong> Our discomfort with money matters has been shaped by the values of middle-class USA suburbia. These are not Christian values and they are a hindrance to our mission. We need to start having frank discussions about finances, particularly in the area of compensation for those in ministry (even, and especially, those in non-traditional ministries).<br />
<strong>2. </strong> We are ambivalent about financially compensating those in ministry because we don’t really value ministry work as much as we do the work that produces tangible, “secular” goods and services. (I recently spoke to a hard-working but utterly impoverished missional leader about his dire circumstances. I expressed my frustration and noted that nobody would be debating whether he should be paid if he was a plumber, doctor, or accountant. He glumly replied that they wouldn’t be debating compensation even if he were working as a porn star.)<br />
<strong>3.</strong> The ambivalence about paying missional leaders has less to do with a desire for “good stewardship” or “obeying scripture” than it does with resentment against those folks who “get to have all the fun” by being in ministry. (Which hearkens back to point #2: We tend to see ministry as being “fun”, instead of seeing it as genuine labor.)<br />
<strong>4. </strong> The missional/emergent movement has enough money to support our leaders, our members, and our mission. We just haven’t yet figured out how to manage/distribute our finances so that needs get met, and we won’t, until we are willing to start bringing finances into the “conversation”.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p><strong>Check out the rest of the synchroblog by visiting the links below:</strong></p>
<p>The Check That Controls at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Figneousquill.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fcheck-that-controls.html" rel="nofollow">Igneous Quill</a><br />
Pushing The Camel: Why there might be more rich people in Heaven than in your local Church at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Ffernandogros.com%2F%3Fp%3D1072" rel="nofollow">Fernando’s desk</a><br />
Trusting God &#8211; A New Perspective at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsallysjourney.typepad.com%2Fsallys_journey%2F2007%2F11%2Ftrusting-god--a.html" rel="nofollow">Eternal Echoes</a><br />
Silver and Gold Have We &#8211; Oops! <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subversiveinfluence.com%2Fwordpress%2F%3Fp%3D1486" rel="nofollow">Subversive Influence</a><br />
Lord, Won’t You Buy Me a Mercedes Benz at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fhellosaidjenelle.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Flord-wont-you-buy-me-mercedes-benz.html" rel="nofollow">Hello Said Jenelle</a><br />
Walking With the Camels at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calacirian.org%2F%3Fp%3D701" rel="nofollow">Calacirian</a><br />
Zaque at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnnybeloved.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Johnny Beloved</a><br />
Greed and Bitterness: Why Nobody’s Got it Right About Money and The Church at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsquarenomore.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fgreed-and-bitterness-why-nobodys-got-it_14.html" rel="nofollow">Phil Wyman’s Square No More</a><br />
Kirk Bartha at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftheocity.blogspot.com%2F" rel="nofollow">Theocity</a><br />
Money and the Church: A Fulltime Story at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.the-pursuit.net%2F2007%2F11%2Fmoney-and-church-fulltime-story.html" rel="nofollow">The Pursuit</a><br />
But I Gave at Church at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fassembling.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fbut-i-gave-at-church.html" rel="nofollow">The Assembling of the Church</a><br />
Moving Out of Jesus Neighborhood at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fdavidwmfisher.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fmoving-out-of-jesus-neighborhood.html" rel="nofollow">Be the Revolution</a><br />
Money and the Church: why the big fuss? at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.p2ptrust.org%2Fblog%2F2007%2F11%2Fmoney-and-church-why-big-fuss-well-i.html" rel="nofollow">Mike’s Musings</a><br />
Coffee Hour Morality at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fjulieclawson.com%2F2007%2F11%2F15%2Fcoffee-hour-morality%2F" rel="nofollow">One Hand Clapping</a><br />
Bling Bling in the Holy of Holies at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Finrebasworld.com%2Farchives%2F375" rel="nofollow">In Reba’s World</a><br />
Magazinial Outreach at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.erinword.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fmagazinial-outreach.html" rel="nofollow">Decompressing Faith</a><br />
Money’s too tight to mention at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Foutofthecocoon.squarespace.com%2Fmain%2F2007%2F11%2F13%2Fmoneys-too-tight-to-mention.html" rel="nofollow">Out of the Cocoon</a><br />
Bullshit at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftheagentbfiles.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fbullshit.html" rel="nofollow">The Agent B Files</a><br />
The Bourgeois Elephant in the Missional/Emergent Living Room at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Flainiepetersen.com%2F%3Fp%3D134" rel="nofollow">Headspace</a><br />
When the Church Gives at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fpaynefulmemories.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fwhen-church-gives.html" rel="nofollow">Payneful Memories</a><br />
Who, or What, Do You Worship at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.charisshalom.fjministries.com%2F2007%2F11%2F15%2Fwho-or-what-do-you-%2520worship%2F" rel="nofollow">at Charis Shalom</a><br />
Tithe Scmithe at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fdiscombobula.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Ftithe-schmithe_15.html" rel="nofollow">Discombobula</a><br />
The Church and Money at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fkhanya.wordpress.com%2F%25202007%2F11%2F14%2Fthe-church-and-money-synchroblog%2F" rel="nofollow">Khanya</a><br />
Greed at <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FMissional%2B%2Farticles%2F14%2FNOVEMBER%2Bsorry%2BPaul%2BSynchroblog%2BBourgeois&amp;URL=http%3A%2F%2Fhollowagain.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fgreed.html" rel="nofollow">Hollow Again</a></p>
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